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man, im not sure. mine work fine. when my car is turned off and the needles are in the off position, there is a point where they won't move any further back. i took them off when the car was off and put them back on in the exact same position i took them off. i made sure to make sure they were at that "stopping" point so i knew they were in the same position. im not sure what the deal is with yours. maybe mine was a little different being that it is a 2011. kinda hard to tell without being there in person. sorry
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